Vaccine Debate in Harlem, NYC 2

The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate

Part 2

Are vaccines effective?

December 28, 2019 – The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate – organized by Curtis Cost – occurred on December 15th and consisted of 4 questions that were actively debated:

Question 1 – Are Vaccines Safe?

Question 2 – Are vaccines effective? (This report)

Question 3 – Can you raise a healthy child without vaccines? (report still to come)

Question 4 – Who should decide if a child is vaccinated, parents or the government? (report still to come)

I have previously published a full report detailing question 1. This report will cover in detail question 2 – Are vaccines effective?

As previously mentioned in Part 1 of this series, the pro-vaccine side of the debate consisted of Ankh Imhotep (Community Activist), Asar Imhotep (Computer Scientist), and Dr. Vanammee (PhD Biomedicine). The pro-Health Freedom side consisted of Del Bigtree (TV/Movie producer, journalist), James Lyons-Weiler (PhD Biomedicine), Virstyne Henry (Health Freedom Activist) and Danielle Gail (Parent Activist).


The first major point made on efficacy came from the pro-vaccine side of the debate. Ankh Imhotep pointed to as proof vaccines are effective. He said that vaccines provide protection for the African American Community; if we don’t use vaccines, than what “effective cure” does the other side of the debate have to offer against pathogens? Imhotep yelled this out quite loudly and aggressively.

James Lyons-Weiler responded for the pro-Health Freedom side that there is no doubt if you put an antigen into someone’s body in sufficient dosage it will cause an immune response. However the massive amounts of vaccines we are putting into individuals has “changed the adaptive landscape” of the body and the immune system. Weiler pointed to DTaP as being a “failed vaccine program” as it no longer stops transmission of the pertussis infection.

I need to interject here – Weiler’s point is a true, accepted fact, admitted by everyone who pays attention to the most recent science including Dr. Stanley Plotkin, who is considered “The Godfather” of the modern day vaccination program. Plotkin invented and patented the Rubella vaccine that is used in the MMR. In a sworn deposition Plotkin has admitted that the acellular pertussis portion of the DTaP vaccine allows those vaccinated with it to still be carriers of pertussis (whooping cough) in their lungs. The vaccinated carrier does not show any symptoms of pertussis but can still transmit it to others; a very dangerous situation especially for newborns and infants. You can watch Plotkin admit this at the following link: (go to 24:30)

Weiler went on to say because of vaccines, modern medicine has not looked for new treatments to infections such as pertussis because it is assumed to be taken care of by the vaccine. However that is no longer the case, and vaccine failure may place us in a very scary situation.

HPV may be one of these scary situations. Weiler stated after the HPV vaccination program began we started to find rare types of HPV rising in frequency, and girls as young as 24 who received the HPV vaccine started to get cervical cancer. Prior to the vaccine this was unheard of. “We think we can control nature,” said Weiler, but we are facing the frightening possibility of our “technologies becoming useless.”

Dr. Vanammee responded for the pro-side by going back to the first debate question of are vaccines safe. She stated that the DTP vaccine has been shown to be dangerous and even deadly, and because of this in America that vaccine is no longer in use. It was replaced with the DTaP vaccine and this is proof that safety is taken into consideration. She did mention that the DTP vaccine is still used in the developing world and perhaps it should be replaced with the DTaP, however she acknowledged that she was not qualified to make such a determination.

Ank Imhotep jumped in and referred to James Lyons-Weiler as an “anti-vaxxer” and reiterated the point that at the end of the day they have nothing to offer to replace vaccination.

Weiler responded for the pro-Health Freedom side by saying, “Do not call me an anti-vaxxer. I am a vaccine-risk aware American.” He continued discussing the safety aspect of the debate by saying he feels currently vaccines are not safe, but that they can be made safer. Our tax dollars go to funding vaccine research and hardly anything else. The National Institute of Health (NIH) should be studying how to respond appropriately to vaccine injuries, according to Weiler. He gave the example that if an adult has a seizure, an ambulance would come and EMT’s would perform a medical procedure on the individual suffering from the seizure. If a baby has a seizure after a vaccine the pediatrician sends the child home and does nothing for it. This is ridiculous, and money and resources need to be invested in how to treat vaccine injuries, according to Weiler.

Asar Imhotep on the pro-vaccine side continued on the safety argument by making an analogy comparing vaccines to air bags in cars. Air bags can cause harm to people when they go off, but the harm they cause is so much less than the harm they prevent. Ankh Imhotep made the point that he and his children, and the majority of the audience, are all living examples that vaccines are safe and effective. His children were all vaccinated and none of them got measles or mumps. Ankh Imhotep said if we were in Africa right now, we would all be begging and crying to get vaccines.

Del Bigtree responded for the pro-Health Freedom by first addressing safety one last time. He said safety of a vaccine can only be determined by comparing it to an inert placebo test, which has never been done for any of the vaccines on the CDC’s childhood schedule. He then referred to the failed DTaP vaccine reading directly from Boston University’s School of Public Health peer reviewed journal publication titled, “Resurgence of Whooping Cough May Owe to Vaccine’s Inability to Prevent Infections.” Bigtree went on to cite how the measles vaccine is capable of causing a vaccine-strain of measles (strain A) (See reports here & here for more information on vaccine strain measles). Bigtree ended by saying, “Many of these vaccines are not effective.”

Dr. Vanammee responded for the pro-vaccine side saying it is true that some vaccines can cause the disease that they are supposed to vaccinate for (such as polio or measles vaccine) however the numbers are extremely low. Safety of a vaccine has to be considered against the deaths caused by the diseases, not by comparing it to a saline placebo. I need to interject here – I think we want to consider *BOTH* of these when making safety decisions; not one or the other.

The pro-vaccine side continued by saying the HPV-9 vaccine is “100% effective against getting pre-cancerous cells” and that “the HPV vaccine cannot cause cancer.” They were reading from a report but I did not hear the source given. It sounded like a scientific journals publication that was funded by the pharmaceutical industry.

James Lyons-Weiler responded for the pro-Health Freedom side addressing the analogy of airbags in cars. Airbags are safe because we have a National Safety Board that makes sure car manufacturers produce a safe product. We don’t have anything like that for vaccines. The CDC’s mandate is to promote the use and sale of vaccines, so they are incapable of monitoring vaccine safety, according to Weiler. He then responded that the HPV vaccine is effective against preventing infections of HPV types 1 through 9, but there are 120 other strains, and many of those strains are rare, deadly strains. The vaccine actually causes rarer, more lethal types of HPV to sweep in. The net effect seems to be devastating increases in HPV-related cancers. Weiler recommended everyone read the phenomenal book The HPV Vaccine on Trial which has all of the scientific citations backing up this claim.

Del Bigtree added that the data coming from the World Health Organization (WHO) is biased, and cannot be trusted. He said he needs to see independent studies. (This indicated to me the data sourced on the HPV vaccine by the pro-vaccine side was coming from WHO).

Ankh Imhotep then said, “So let’s do the independent study!”

There were loud applause to this and Del Bigtree jumped up and hugged Imhotep for making this statement. After that Ankh Imhotep referenced the Institute of Medicine (IOM) as an independent scientific body that had reviewed over 12,000 peer reviewed studies in the medical literature to determine that vaccines were safe and effective.

When Ankh Imhotep was done Del Bigtree walked up to the laptop and projector with a “cat that ate the canary” smile on his face. To me it seemed as though Bigtree was quite thrilled that the IOM’s science had just been referenced.

Bigtree agreed with Imhotep that the IOM was an independent scientific body – perhaps the most respected in the world. He stated that the IOM had searched all the peer reviewed studies across the globe and found that there has never been a study comparing vaccinated children to their unvaccinated peers. The IOM also concluded the cumulative effects of every vaccine in the CDC’s schedule have never been studied. Lastly the IOM concluded that the science does not exist to determine whether or not the DTaP vaccine can cause autism.

After this Curtis Cost asked the crowd to vote on whether they felt vaccines were effective. The majority of the crowd clapped the loudest for, “No, vaccines are not effective.”

***Stay tuned – next report from The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate will deal with the Question Can you raise a healthy child without vaccines?

Harlem Vaccine Debate Controversy Continues

Both sides are pissed off!

December 20, 2019 — Pro-vaccine advocates continue to fire shots at the Vaccine Choice advocates they just debated on December 15th. Thousands of people continue to watch the controversy unfold on internet interviews of participants in The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate. Health Freedom Advocate Virstyne Henry and Parent Activist Danielle Gail were interviewed by Saneter. The two women are pictured above and the interviews of them can be found at the end of this report.

The “Amen Ra Squad,” which argued the pro-vaccine side of the debate headed by Ankh Imhotep and Asar Imhotep, has been vocally upset about the way the debate transpired. Many comments have been flying, especially from Ankh Imhotep. The Amen Ra Squad felt they were “set-up” in the debate and treated unfairly.

I was at the debate and I do not believe anyone was treated unfairly. There were many more Vaccine Choice & Health Freedom folk in the audience at the debate than there were pro-vaccine supporters; that is true. But as Virstyne Henry says in the below linked Youtube interview with Saneter, whose fault was that?!? They didn’t bring their people – we did!

Parent advocate Danielle Gail was asked by Saneter what she had heard after the debate that “pissed her off.” She stated that Ankh Imhotep had been saying, “We won we won we won!” like a child who had actually just lost. That was not to say either side was victorious because the goal wasn’t winning or losing, but rather to exchange information.

When Virstyne Henry was asked what “pissed her off” she was most upset with those who racialized the debate claiming black people don’t have the luxury of saying there are government and medical conspiracies against them. She also stated that after the debate there was one member from the pro-vaccine side who told her he had never heard many of the facts presented by the Vaccine Choice debaters, and he planned to look into them further.

“That must have been Asar,” said Saneter.

I agree, it must have been. Asar Imhotep was by far the most impressive debater on the pro-vaccine side of the debate, and I quote and paraphrase him at length in my reporting. Asar seemed to be the most open-minded individual on the pro-vaccine panel.

Watch the interviews with Saneter below (two of them).

And make sure to read my ongoing coverage of the debate at the following links. There was too much information to cover in one report, so I am breaking it up into a series based off of the 4 questions that were debated:

Question 1 – Are Vaccines Safe?

Question 2 – Are vaccines effective? (report coming soon)

Question 3 – Can you raise a healthy child without vaccines? (report still to come)

Question 4 – Who should decide if a child is vaccinated, parents or the government? (report still to come)


Saneter Interviews:

Part 1 Virstyne & Daniele Clap Back At The Amen Ra Squad

Part 2

Danielle Gail is part of The Family Freedom Alliance, which you can follow and join at

The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate

Sunday, December 15, 2019

Buy Tickets HERE!

Doors open at 2pm

If you can’t come to The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate, you can watch it streaming live on December 15, 2019, starting at 3pm.

The Harlem Vaccine Forum is being followed up by The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate on December 15, 2019. The event is organized by Curtis Cost and will be featuring:

Del Bigtree

Dr. Larry Palevsky

James Lyons-Weiler, PhD

Rita Palma

and many more…

Curtis Cost is a crucial Health Freedom activist in NYC. The way his last event was attacked by the Mainstream Media is a clear indication he is headed in the right direction to bring Medical Freedom back to New York

I have interviewed Curtis Cost, Del Bigtree, Virstyne Henry and a mother named Danielle about The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate, and much more. Read those interviews at the following links:

Del Bigtree Interview

Curtis Cost Interview

Virstyne Henry & Danielle Interview

Women in The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate

Read Part 1 of my reporting on the Debate HERE

Danielle Gail, parent activist: “This is not a white thing, this is not a black thing; it is a human race thing, not anything else. We need to stick together. I feel like racism is all about keeping the people weak.

Virstyne, Health Freedom Activist: “I call it the ‘Once black people find out about it it’s over for them” theory.


December 12, 2019 — I interviewed two of the women who will be on the Health Freedom side of The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate on Sunday, December 15th. One is a mother and the other is a Health Freedom Advocate. One is black the other is white. They come from different backgrounds and life experiences but both have a passion for exposing the truth as they have come to know it regarding vaccination.

They will be participating in The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate pairing up against counterparts who believe they’re Health Freedom information is wrong; it will likely be mom vs. mom and Health Freedom Advocate vs. Pro-vaccine Advocate.

“I had a mini-debate against two of the people who will be on the pro-vaccine side of the debate recently,” said Virsytne in our phone interview. “The vibe I got from them was that this is a white person’s problem, but it’s an every-person’s problem. They are buying into the propaganda that so-called ‘anti-vaxxers’ are racists and ‘killing black people’ by not vaccinating; which is just nonsense.”

Virstyne elaborated on this point more:

“A lot of black people aren’t into science. We are brainwashed into thinking basketball and rap are the ways out of the hood…I’m from L.A; I grew up in South Central. I would get my hair done in the hood where most of the clients were pimps, gangsters and prostitutes. They were all very intelligent people. They may not have been formally educated but they are not stupid.” 

Most Black people instinctively know that the government and big corporations are not to be trusted, so, as Virstyne’s theory goes; “Once black people find out about it it’s over for them.

This is precisely why ABC News took 3 weeks to write a vicious attack on Robert F. Kennedy Jr. after The Harlem Vaccine Forum; the mainstream news media (and their Big Pharma master) is scared to death of the African American community realizing the dangers and damage posed and caused by vaccination; including the fact that there is a 340% increase in incidents of Autism in African American boys when they are given the MMR vaccine at 18 months of age. That data was illegally hidden and destroyed by the CDC, and was first brought to light in the documentary movie VAXXED.

Virstyne Henry is co-founder of the website You can find her work there and at all of the following links:


Instinct is how Danielle describes her realization that vaccination was not to be trusted.

“It was just a gut feeling. It started the first year I was a teacher. I got a letter from the health department saying I had to get some sort of shot to keep working in the school. My initial reaction was “Hell no!” So I didn’t do it. Nothing came of it, and years later when I was pregnant I just naturally questioned vaccination. I eventually talked to a friend who doesn’t vaccinate her kids and she pointed me in the direction of Dr. Palvesky.”

Dr. Larry Palevsky is a pediatrician who will also be part of the Pro-Health Freedom side of The Great Vaccine Debate on Sunday, December 15. I asked Danielle about what her plans are in terms of educating her children now that the religious exemption to vaccination has been repealed here in New York.

“I already wanted to home school my children even before the religious exemption was repealed. I don’t believe that the school system provides a proper education to begin with.”

Does Danielle and her family have any plans to leave New York?

“If things continue to be corrupt, yes. Eventually they want to force home-schooled children to vaccinate as well. I don’t want to have any part of it, it’s a disgrace to humanity.”

Join Virstyne Henry, Danielle, Del Bigtree, Dr. Larry Palevsky, Curtis Cost, Rita Palma and many more at The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate on December 15 at 2pm. Purchase tickets at the following link:

Danielle Gail is part of The Family Freedom Alliance, which you can follow and join at

Interview with Del Bigtree: The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate

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BREAKING NEWS on Vaccine Injured NY Boy Ameer

Has Anyone Debated Del on Vaccines?

Del Loves New York!

Trump & Vaccines


December 6, 2019 — Del Bigtree, CEO of ICAN and producer of the movies VAXXED and VAXXED II, is coming back to New York for The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate on December 15, 2019. Buy your tickets to the debate at the following link:

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Curtis Cost helped connect me with Bigtree for a phone interview that went in many directions; from vaccine debates, to Del’s most memorable trip to New York, to a breaking news update on vaccine injured Ameer from Buffalo, to the coming “REAL ID” and mandatory adult vaccination.

Where to begin…


On November 12th here at The Fed Up Democrat we reported that a temporary restraining order was granted sending a 9-year-old vaccine injured boy named Ameer back to school. I asked Del Bigtree what were the next legal steps to be taken in this case.

“We are going to break this story on The Highwire next week,” said Del Bigtree during our phone interview. “The school board that removed Ameer from school is not going to push back. The temporary restraining order that put Ameer back in school last month is now permanent.”

This sets a firm legal precedent in New York that medical exemptions to vaccination written by doctors cannot be overridden by the Department of Health.

“Unlike other cases that went after health departments, it is actually the schools that enforce the denial of a medical exemption to vaccination. Aaron Siri made a smart tactical move by going after the school. So if in the future a New York school overrides a valid medical exemption written by a doctor lawyers can cite this case as a precedent to return a child back to school.”

Aaron Siri is the attorney who represented Ameer. Del Bigtree and his non-profit ICAN have worked with Siri on many cases, including cases against both federal and state government agencies that related to vaccination. Siri was also involved in lawsuits where Brooklyn residents were fined for refusing to be injected with the MMR vaccine back when Mayor DeBlasio declared a state of emergency forcing the vaccine on every Brooklyn resident in 4 zip codes.

“We helped fund some of the legal work where there were 100 people fined (in Brooklyn for not taking the MMR vaccine) and we were able to win over 90% of those cases,” said Bigtree.

Real Vaccine Debates?

Anyone who follows Del Bigtree knows he always wants to get into real debates over vaccines with anyone who is willing, but has anyone ever accepted the challenge to debate him and his colleagues? Here’s the response I got from Bigtree:

“I showed up for a conversation which was setup to be a debate in Atlanta, Georgia. Six doctors – including neurologists and pediatricians – were going to debate us. Chris Shaw was one of the doctors on my side, so was Dr. Toni Bark and James Lyons-Weiler. We all showed up for the debate but about a week before the event the AMA found out, contacted the other side and made them drop out. We had the debate anyway – we debated 6 empty chairs across from us. I always say yes to debates, but now I’m doubtful the other side will show up because they never do. I hope the other side shows up in Harlem this time.”

There was one time Bigtree was able to debate, unexpectedly, at the state Capitol in Oklahoma:

“I had a debate in Oklahoma once when they had a meeting at the Capitol. The head of their health department spoke to the legislators and answered questions. They asked the health department head a question and his response was not based on the science. When they came to me I said, ‘hold on, can I refute what was just said,’ they said, ‘Yes, this is what this is for.’ That was fantastic! It was the first time I had the vaccine debate in public. Even the head of the health department eventually realized he was out-manned. He said vaccines are safe and effective over and over. I think it was when we discussed the DTaP vaccine and how the pertussis component does not stop transmission, but rather creates asymptomatic carriers of pertussis that are very dangerous especially to newborns: from that moment on he seemed to tap-out of the debate. At times he would lean in to the mic as if he was going to make a statement, but would ultimately just stay quiet and not really answer.”

Even Dr. Stanley Plotkin, the so called “Godfather” of the modern vaccine movement, has admitted the acellular DTaP vaccine allows those vaccinated with it to be carriers of pertussis in their lungs. You can watch Plotkin admit this when he was legally deposed under oath at the following link: (go to 24:30)

Del Loves New York!

Bigtree has been spending a lot of time in New York lately. I asked him what was his favorite or most memorable visit to New York

“That’s hard to say, I met my wife in New York. It’s a favorite place of mine. But I think that the events in the ultra-orthodox Jewish communities in Rockland County and in Brooklyn – at the center of the measles outbreak – were very special. I feel it was historic. Over 1,000 ultra-orthodox Jews were in the room in Rockland. A rabbi said to me this isn’t something they normally do; they don’t bring in a gentile in to educate them. But they greatly appreciated the information I brought and it made them look at things from another perspective. The intensity around the issue made it really special too. What was so unique and frightening was that we were talking about a quarantine at that time. Even the law that just got passed in New York to repeal the religious exemption to vaccination was not as dangerous as that quarantine. The quarantine laws were saying you could not go to the synagogue during Passover if you hadn’t been vaccinated with the MMR.”

Remember that Rockland County Executive Ed Day had banned all unvaccinated children (healthy children!) from being in any public spaces. Thankfully that emergency order was over-turned in court.

Trump & Vaccines

I asked Bigtree what he felt about Trump and his vaccine policies, as we have seen both positive and negative acts by Trump when it comes to vaccination. Here is Bigtree’s extensive response:

“We have got to get over the idea that there is a single president or leader who can help us. This problem, and all of our problems, are because our government leaders are funded by lobbyists and industries we are supposed to be protected from…I personally believe Trump has slowed down the push for a mandated adult vaccination program. It’s clear this thing goes down party lines. Democrats for some reason have decided to make this a platform for their party, which is hard to understand how they are environmentalists on one hand but have no problem forcing known toxins to be injected into everybody.

“But to jump on the other side of this what it shows is that people should be cautious on all sides. Trump represents the possibility that anyone can win the presidency…There are a lot of Latinos, African Americans and members of the LGBT community that believe Trump does not want them in this country. Here’s what’s shocking – many of those same people will support a forced vaccination program that today would be headed by the man they don’t trust; Donald Trump!

“I want to be very clear about this: We should’ve learned from Nazi Germany that we don’t want our government injecting us with products or performing medical procedures that we do not agree with. I think we all know it’s possible that a ‘bad actor’ could become the president of this country; as I already said some think Trump is that bad actor. And it is the president that determines health policy in this country; the president picks the head of the CDC, HHS, NIH, FDA and EPA.

“Imagine a bad actor that doesn’t like a certain race or lifestyle-choice who gets into a position to target that group through medical means. The vaccine issue only opens the door to a far more insidious problem we are facing with Big Pharma having captured our regulatory agencies.”


“I think we are in a position now where we are on the precipice of losing informed consent altogether. It’s not about just the children any longer, it’s about all of humanity. The adult vaccine mandates are coming,” said Bigtree. “The ‘REAL ID’ is moving towards becoming mandatory in America by October of 2020, which will maintain all types of data about a person that could include your vaccination records. We will see in America what happened in Argentina recently, where you can’t get a drivers license, a marriage license, etc… unless you are up to date on all of your vaccines.”

Age of Autism recently reported that the European Union is planning on making a vaccine ID attached to the European passport by 2022. In New York there are behind the scenes discussions in Albany over mandatory vaccination of all teachers and educators. The world is also moving towards assigning a Universal Digital Identity (UDI) to every man, woman and child that will be needed to buy food, travel, utilize government services, see a doctor, access moneys and so on. Just like the REAL ID a UDI would have the capability of holding your entire medical history on it, including vaccination records.

I couldn’t agree more with Bigtree – the danger that is in front of us is for every American and every human being on planet earth. The battle for #HealthFreedom is about way more than whether or not our children can attend public school.


Join Del Bigtree, Dr. Larry Palevsky, Curtis Cost, Rita Palma and many more at The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate on December 15 at 2pm. Purchase tickets at the following link:

Interview with Curtis Cost “Vaccines Are Dangerous”

The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate

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Was Andy Wakefield at the Harlem Vaccine Forum?

What Really Happened at The Riverside Church?

What’s the deal with Al Sharpton?

Health Freedom in New York

Trump & Vaccines

Buy Curtis Costs book, Vaccines are Dangerous


December 2, 2019 — As I spoke to Curtis Cost over the phone I could hear the energy, enthusiasm and excitement in his voice for what is happening with the Health Freedom and Vaccine Choice Movement in New York today. On the heels of the wildly successful Harlem Vaccine Forum, Cost is now planning a debate over the safety and efficacy of vaccines called The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate in Harlem, NY on December 15, 2019. I had a lot to ask Cost and he was very happy to answer all of my questions.

Controversy at the Riverside Church

I attended Cost’s October 19th event The Harlem Vaccine Forum at the Riverside Church and published two reports about it. The first report was only about the controversy at the end where Robert F. Kennedy Jr. had his mic cutoff mid sentence and was forced out of the church. At that time I was told that Andrew Wakefield was set to speak after RFK Jr.

“Yes that’s correct. Andy Wakefield and Gary Null were both set to speak by Skype after Kennedy,” said Cost in our phone interview.

Cost explained that the contract they had with the Riverside Church was from 1 to 4pm with an hour to setup before the event and one hour to break down. They had assumed it would be fine to run over into their breakdown time as long as they were out of the church by 5pm – this is customary for events everywhere, including at the Riverside Church. But the church pulled the plug promptly at 4pm in a rude and entirely unprofessional manner. For all the details of how that went down read Controversy at Harlem Vaccine Forum.

“It was clear to me very powerful forces were involved. For them to shut off a mic on a Kennedy like that – somebody very powerful got to them, or several people,” said Cost. It should be noted that the video footage of RFK’s mic being cut has been viewed over 300,000 times on the internet, according to Cost. After the event one of the attorneys working with Cost reached out to the Riverside Church asking them to discuss what had happened; to clear the air and figure out precisely what broke down in their communications.

“Riverside Church said no; they refused to talk with us…Overall I am really shocked. I have never seen this type of response and level of hostility,” said Cost.

Keep in mind Cost and Children’s Health Defense (CHD) were paying customers who had contractually rented the space for the event. Why they would treat a paying customer this way remains unclear and definitely speaks to some form of intentional sabotage. If that is not the case, than why would the church refuse to meet after the fact to clear the air?

Al Sharpton

As many people know Curits Cost was the man who got Al Sharpton to agree to speak at the Harlem Vaccine Forum sharing the stage with RFK Jr. However just days before the forum Al Sharpton cancelled it. Cost has worked with Sharpton shedding light on many important issues over many decades, including the US Naval base in Vieques, Puerto Rico. RFK Jr. and Sharpton were both arrested protesting at the Naval base back in 2001. Cost had organized a protest in NYC demanding Sharpton be let out of prison at that time.

The Harlem Vaccine Forum was originally scheduled to take place at Sharpton’s National Action Network, but the plug was pulled when Sharpton was viciously attacked by the mainstream media. I told Cost when I had first published that Sharpton would be sharing the stage with RFK Jr., conservative friends of mine in media said there was no way Sharpton “would be allowed” to be involved with the event, especially since Sharpton works for MSNBC. Cost said he too has friends in media who said the exact same thing to him from early on.

Cost respects Sharpton and has held forums and events with him and his National Action Network in the past on many issues, including on vaccines. However Sharpton had never put his name and likeness to a vaccine event the way he tried to for the 2019 forum. As the attacks on Sharpton leading up to the event grew, Cost got a call from Sharpton’s office.

“They told me I had exactly 1 hour to come up with 4 doctors who will debate the pro-vaccine side…Well that was really just a way of him saying no; how was I going to find 4 doctors in 1 hour? Keep in mind this was not a debate, it was a forum…The way things happened is not what I was used to,” said Cost.

Nothing like this had ever happened to Cost when working with Sharpton and his organization before. Since the event was at the National Action Network, Cost recognized that Sharpton was “the boss” and would call the shots. The way things went down was very unexpected to Cost.

“I can tell you one thing though, when I read the report put out by ABC news attacking Sharpton it was clear to me they were scared to death over RFK and Sharpton getting together on this issue…This whole thing became far bigger than I imagined it would because of the Sharpton controversy. If they would’ve just let it play out on it’s own it would’ve never been this big. I’ve heard from people in France, Israel, and all over the world who know about this thing!”

Health Freedom New York

“I had taken a break from (vaccine activism) until June 13, 2019,” said Cost. That was the date the religious exemption to vaccination was repealed in New York State. Cost has been a Vaccine Choice activist since at least 1991, when he published the first addition of “Vaccines Are Dangerous.” I asked Cost how the face of the Vaccine Choice Movement has changed since then.

“When I started there was no movement, there was just me. Many thought I was crazy. I knew there was a huge information gap in the African American community. No one else in my community had written such a book but me, and to my knowledge I believe that’s still the case. It was just me going places, giving talks.”

Compared to today:

“I do see a massive coming together of black, white, rich, poor, all coming together on this issue. We had everyone at the Harlem Vaccine Forum; Asians and Latinos as well. They all recognize that informed consent and parental choice are critical. We can all agree on that.”

I asked Cost what he thought about the common criticism thrown at our movement – that it’s just a bunch of entitled rich white women:

“I am not rich, I’m not white and I’m not a woman – you can quote me on that – and I’ve been out there for 30 years doing this. I have been educating the Black community with this information going back to the 1990s.”

Cost has had much success with the so-called ‘Conscious Community,’ which is a diverse group of African Americans who are very mindful of what they eat, what goes into their bodies, and follow different spiritual or religious paths.

“In the Black Community the Conscious community is aware of who I am and they are very grateful to me. It’s the more general market of African Americans who need more help. They are not tuning in to the conscious radio shows or lectures; getting to them is a huge challenge. They have PhD’s in watching Oprah and Beyonce, or they can quote tons of stats on sports. That is the majority of what our people are dealing with so they are not getting this information.”

This is hardly different from what we experience in the White community.

“My job,” Cost continued, “is not finished. Other’s in the Conscious community are doing good work as well. That effort is now joining forces with White people in the Vaccine Choice movement who have the same common ground.”

As I’ve said before I believe this ‘coming together’ is what scares The Powers That Be (TPTB) more than anything, and it may be the only thing that scares them.

Trump & Vaccines

Clearly and without question the Democrats are the #1 enemy of all Health Freedom and Vaccine Choice advocates today; especially Democratic leadership. When Trump was campaigning to be president he stated vaccines can and do cause Autism in some children. He was the first presidential hopeful to ever make such a statement, and he gained tons of support from the Vaccine Choice community because of these comments. However he has not made good on any of his promises to our community, and in fact has gone in the opposite direction. Additionally Trump does not seem to have the best interests of the African American Community in mind (at least in my opinion). I asked Cost what his opinion was of this reality:

“Everyone in this movement, no matter race or background, recognizes that informed consent and parental choice is critical. We can all agree on that. Trump is the better choice, at least at this point in time. Trump was instrumental recently in passing an executive order allowing doctors to refuse to engage in procedures that go against their religious and/or philosophical beliefs. It’s believed this should have a wider impact on all of society, and eventually apply to everyone. Republicans will at least stand for parental choice.”

Cost and I agreed on this most critical fact – we are both single-issue voters. Cost understands that many African American are concerned about housing, police brutality, the economy – all valid and important issues without question. However there is no freedom unless we are free to determine what does and does not go into our bodies – especially what is directly injected into our muscle tissue (and our kids).

“Based on my research,” said Cost, “they are poisoning our kids. The greatest threat to the Black community and the entire populace are these vaccines!”


See Curtis Cost, Del Bigtree, Dr. Larry Palevsky and many others at THE GREAT HARLEM VACCINE DEBATE on December 15, 2019.

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