Interview with Del Bigtree: The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate

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BREAKING NEWS on Vaccine Injured NY Boy Ameer

Has Anyone Debated Del on Vaccines?

Del Loves New York!

Trump & Vaccines

REAL ID

December 6, 2019 — Del Bigtree, CEO of ICAN and producer of the movies VAXXED and VAXXED II, is coming back to New York for The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate on December 15, 2019. Buy your tickets to the debate at the following link:

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Curtis Cost helped connect me with Bigtree for a phone interview that went in many directions; from vaccine debates, to Del’s most memorable trip to New York, to a breaking news update on vaccine injured Ameer from Buffalo, to the coming “REAL ID” and mandatory adult vaccination.

Where to begin…

BREAKING NEWS: Ameer

On November 12th here at The Fed Up Democrat we reported that a temporary restraining order was granted sending a 9-year-old vaccine injured boy named Ameer back to school. I asked Del Bigtree what were the next legal steps to be taken in this case.

“We are going to break this story on The Highwire next week,” said Del Bigtree during our phone interview. “The school board that removed Ameer from school is not going to push back. The temporary restraining order that put Ameer back in school last month is now permanent.”

This sets a firm legal precedent in New York that medical exemptions to vaccination written by doctors cannot be overridden by the Department of Health.

“Unlike other cases that went after health departments, it is actually the schools that enforce the denial of a medical exemption to vaccination. Aaron Siri made a smart tactical move by going after the school. So if in the future a New York school overrides a valid medical exemption written by a doctor lawyers can cite this case as a precedent to return a child back to school.”

Aaron Siri is the attorney who represented Ameer. Del Bigtree and his non-profit ICAN have worked with Siri on many cases, including cases against both federal and state government agencies that related to vaccination. Siri was also involved in lawsuits where Brooklyn residents were fined for refusing to be injected with the MMR vaccine back when Mayor DeBlasio declared a state of emergency forcing the vaccine on every Brooklyn resident in 4 zip codes.

“We helped fund some of the legal work where there were 100 people fined (in Brooklyn for not taking the MMR vaccine) and we were able to win over 90% of those cases,” said Bigtree.

Real Vaccine Debates?

Anyone who follows Del Bigtree knows he always wants to get into real debates over vaccines with anyone who is willing, but has anyone ever accepted the challenge to debate him and his colleagues? Here’s the response I got from Bigtree:

“I showed up for a conversation which was setup to be a debate in Atlanta, Georgia. Six doctors – including neurologists and pediatricians – were going to debate us. Chris Shaw was one of the doctors on my side, so was Dr. Toni Bark and James Lyons-Weiler. We all showed up for the debate but about a week before the event the AMA found out, contacted the other side and made them drop out. We had the debate anyway – we debated 6 empty chairs across from us. I always say yes to debates, but now I’m doubtful the other side will show up because they never do. I hope the other side shows up in Harlem this time.”

There was one time Bigtree was able to debate, unexpectedly, at the state Capitol in Oklahoma:

“I had a debate in Oklahoma once when they had a meeting at the Capitol. The head of their health department spoke to the legislators and answered questions. They asked the health department head a question and his response was not based on the science. When they came to me I said, ‘hold on, can I refute what was just said,’ they said, ‘Yes, this is what this is for.’ That was fantastic! It was the first time I had the vaccine debate in public. Even the head of the health department eventually realized he was out-manned. He said vaccines are safe and effective over and over. I think it was when we discussed the DTaP vaccine and how the pertussis component does not stop transmission, but rather creates asymptomatic carriers of pertussis that are very dangerous especially to newborns: from that moment on he seemed to tap-out of the debate. At times he would lean in to the mic as if he was going to make a statement, but would ultimately just stay quiet and not really answer.”

Even Dr. Stanley Plotkin, the so called “Godfather” of the modern vaccine movement, has admitted the acellular DTaP vaccine allows those vaccinated with it to be carriers of pertussis in their lungs. You can watch Plotkin admit this when he was legally deposed under oath at the following link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHbl6GKC19o (go to 24:30)

Del Loves New York!

Bigtree has been spending a lot of time in New York lately. I asked him what was his favorite or most memorable visit to New York

“That’s hard to say, I met my wife in New York. It’s a favorite place of mine. But I think that the events in the ultra-orthodox Jewish communities in Rockland County and in Brooklyn – at the center of the measles outbreak – were very special. I feel it was historic. Over 1,000 ultra-orthodox Jews were in the room in Rockland. A rabbi said to me this isn’t something they normally do; they don’t bring in a gentile in to educate them. But they greatly appreciated the information I brought and it made them look at things from another perspective. The intensity around the issue made it really special too. What was so unique and frightening was that we were talking about a quarantine at that time. Even the law that just got passed in New York to repeal the religious exemption to vaccination was not as dangerous as that quarantine. The quarantine laws were saying you could not go to the synagogue during Passover if you hadn’t been vaccinated with the MMR.”

Remember that Rockland County Executive Ed Day had banned all unvaccinated children (healthy children!) from being in any public spaces. Thankfully that emergency order was over-turned in court.

Trump & Vaccines

I asked Bigtree what he felt about Trump and his vaccine policies, as we have seen both positive and negative acts by Trump when it comes to vaccination. Here is Bigtree’s extensive response:

“We have got to get over the idea that there is a single president or leader who can help us. This problem, and all of our problems, are because our government leaders are funded by lobbyists and industries we are supposed to be protected from…I personally believe Trump has slowed down the push for a mandated adult vaccination program. It’s clear this thing goes down party lines. Democrats for some reason have decided to make this a platform for their party, which is hard to understand how they are environmentalists on one hand but have no problem forcing known toxins to be injected into everybody.

“But to jump on the other side of this what it shows is that people should be cautious on all sides. Trump represents the possibility that anyone can win the presidency…There are a lot of Latinos, African Americans and members of the LGBT community that believe Trump does not want them in this country. Here’s what’s shocking – many of those same people will support a forced vaccination program that today would be headed by the man they don’t trust; Donald Trump!

“I want to be very clear about this: We should’ve learned from Nazi Germany that we don’t want our government injecting us with products or performing medical procedures that we do not agree with. I think we all know it’s possible that a ‘bad actor’ could become the president of this country; as I already said some think Trump is that bad actor. And it is the president that determines health policy in this country; the president picks the head of the CDC, HHS, NIH, FDA and EPA.

“Imagine a bad actor that doesn’t like a certain race or lifestyle-choice who gets into a position to target that group through medical means. The vaccine issue only opens the door to a far more insidious problem we are facing with Big Pharma having captured our regulatory agencies.”

REAL ID

“I think we are in a position now where we are on the precipice of losing informed consent altogether. It’s not about just the children any longer, it’s about all of humanity. The adult vaccine mandates are coming,” said Bigtree. “The ‘REAL ID’ is moving towards becoming mandatory in America by October of 2020, which will maintain all types of data about a person that could include your vaccination records. We will see in America what happened in Argentina recently, where you can’t get a drivers license, a marriage license, etc… unless you are up to date on all of your vaccines.”

Age of Autism recently reported that the European Union is planning on making a vaccine ID attached to the European passport by 2022. In New York there are behind the scenes discussions in Albany over mandatory vaccination of all teachers and educators. The world is also moving towards assigning a Universal Digital Identity (UDI) to every man, woman and child that will be needed to buy food, travel, utilize government services, see a doctor, access moneys and so on. Just like the REAL ID a UDI would have the capability of holding your entire medical history on it, including vaccination records.

I couldn’t agree more with Bigtree – the danger that is in front of us is for every American and every human being on planet earth. The battle for #HealthFreedom is about way more than whether or not our children can attend public school.

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Join Del Bigtree, Dr. Larry Palevsky, Curtis Cost, Rita Palma and many more at The Great Harlem Vaccine Debate on December 15 at 2pm. Purchase tickets at the following link: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-great-harlem-vaccine-debate-are-vaccines-safe-effective-find-out-tickets-81871129753